Sam Anderson and Iman Smith of Black Roses NYC

Runners of NYC Podcast

November 15, 2019

“I think the biggest lesson that I’ve learned from running is what I learned this spring from getting injured. It was learning that this activity that’s become so much a part of my friendships, relationships with other people and the spiritual practice I have, one of my biggest fears, as a result, was not having that. What I learned this spring really is that running has actually been preparing me to not have it someday. At some point, it’s not going to be there anymore so how is it changing me along the way. I think that’s where we start getting into the transcendence Honestly, I don’t give a fuck about the crews. I don’t even want to know who is who and who is what. It’s just so low in the mix for me as to why we’re doing this and what the big picture is. I wish people gave more attention to what’s going on inside and how their spiritual geometry is changing as a result of this.” – Sam Anderson


Sam Anderson and Iman Smith of Black Roses NYC join podcast over some wine at Contra (138 Orchard St). Sam is the wine and beverage director at Wildair and Contra in the Lower East Side. You may recognize him from the May 2018 cover of Runner’s World, where he opened up about his life and how he turned his life around from a life of partying that included lots of drinking and drugs to a life of running and mindfulness for the better. Iman Smith is a creative director who also serves as a run coach in the city. Back in September, he was hit by a car so his plans to run the NYC Marathon were in jeopardy. Iman and Sam decided to run the New York City Marathon together just a few weeks ago and hearing them recount their experience is what teammates are all about.

This is Runners of NYC. A biweekly podcast from CITIUS MAG. Hosts Leigh Anne Sharek and Chris Chavez look to bring you many of the untold stories behind luminaries and legends that make up New York City’s running culture. You can catch the latest episode of the podcast on iTunes so subscribe and leave a five-star review. We are also on Spotify!

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Chris Chavez

Chris Chavez launched CITIUS MAG in 2016 as a passion project while working full-time for Sports Illustrated. He covered the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro and grew his humble blog into a multi-pronged media company. He completed all six World Marathon Majors and is an aspiring sub-five-minute miler.